Comments on: HALL OF FAME NONSENSE http://zonersports.com/2009/01/hall-of-fame-nonsense/ Chicago sports and more. Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:44:14 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: The Zoner http://zonersports.com/2009/01/hall-of-fame-nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-111980 The Zoner Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:27:25 +0000 http://zonersports.com/?p=2079#comment-111980 Well there is good reason for that. You'd be adding anywhere from 25-75 total bases, another possible 25 runs score, who knows how many RBI, etc. Frank Thomas couldn't field but he was also a much better hitter than Grace and he hit for more power. Well there is good reason for that. You’d be adding anywhere from 25-75 total bases, another possible 25 runs score, who knows how many RBI, etc. Frank Thomas couldn’t field but he was also a much better hitter than Grace and he hit for more power.

]]> By: Schmidty http://zonersports.com/2009/01/hall-of-fame-nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-111978 Schmidty Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:16:02 +0000 http://zonersports.com/?p=2079#comment-111978 OK, so I'm going to play devil's advocate (also known as Jay Mariotti). What if you take 25 of Mark Grace's hits each year...any type of hits...and replace them with home runs. Who's he become? Frank Thomas with a better glove, doesn't DH, is actually a team leader, and never spent a significant amount of time on the DH. Factor in his ROY, playoff performances, and World Series ring. Thomas should be a first-ballot HOFer while Gracie will be lucky to get enough votes to stay on the ballot next year. Interesting how much we value the dinger, isn't it? OK, so I’m going to play devil’s advocate (also known as Jay Mariotti). What if you take 25 of Mark Grace’s hits each year…any type of hits…and replace them with home runs. Who’s he become? Frank Thomas with a better glove, doesn’t DH, is actually a team leader, and never spent a significant amount of time on the DH. Factor in his ROY, playoff performances, and World Series ring. Thomas should be a first-ballot HOFer while Gracie will be lucky to get enough votes to stay on the ballot next year. Interesting how much we value the dinger, isn’t it?

]]> By: JM Van Horn http://zonersports.com/2009/01/hall-of-fame-nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-111975 JM Van Horn Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:06:21 +0000 http://zonersports.com/?p=2079#comment-111975 Solid write up and I agree with you. Sometime we, as fans, are blinded by those stars who we have soft spots for. Solid write up and I agree with you. Sometime we, as fans, are blinded by those stars who we have soft spots for.

]]> By: dhaab http://zonersports.com/2009/01/hall-of-fame-nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-111969 dhaab Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:35:54 +0000 http://zonersports.com/?p=2079#comment-111969 Andre Dawson DEFINITELY deserves to be in the HOF. He should get in this year along with Rickey Henderson. I loved both of these players growing up. Quick story. When Hawk was still playing for the Expos back in the early 80's, I happened to see him play at Wrigley Field while sitting in the right field bleachers with my dad. I distinctly remember turning to my old man at one point in the game and saying "Dad, can you imagine what kind of numbers this guy would put up if he played here 80 games a year?" What can I say? I have psychic abilities. :) As for Grace being in the HOF, please. Phil Rogers continues to show how ridiculously stupid he is as a baseball journalist. The city of Chicago certainly deserves someone much better than him as their main baseball writer. Andre Dawson DEFINITELY deserves to be in the HOF. He should get in this year along with Rickey Henderson. I loved both of these players growing up.

Quick story. When Hawk was still playing for the Expos back in the early 80’s, I happened to see him play at Wrigley Field while sitting in the right field bleachers with my dad. I distinctly remember turning to my old man at one point in the game and saying “Dad, can you imagine what kind of numbers this guy would put up if he played here 80 games a year?” What can I say? I have psychic abilities. :)

As for Grace being in the HOF, please. Phil Rogers continues to show how ridiculously stupid he is as a baseball journalist. The city of Chicago certainly deserves someone much better than him as their main baseball writer.

]]> By: Schmidty http://zonersports.com/2009/01/hall-of-fame-nonsense/comment-page-1/#comment-111966 Schmidty Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:03:25 +0000 http://zonersports.com/?p=2079#comment-111966 Zoner, if I could vote for the Pulitzer, I'd defintely put you on my ballot, especially if Gracie gets into the Hall. I'm a HUGE Grace fan. But alas, you'd certainly correct in that he doesn't have the credentials. I think the Trib's voters pretty much show you where he'll land in the balloting. But, by their vote, this year's class will be Rickey Henderson and the Hawk. Can it FINALLY be his year?!?! Zoner, if I could vote for the Pulitzer, I’d defintely put you on my ballot, especially if Gracie gets into the Hall. I’m a HUGE Grace fan. But alas, you’d certainly correct in that he doesn’t have the credentials. I think the Trib’s voters pretty much show you where he’ll land in the balloting. But, by their vote, this year’s class will be Rickey Henderson and the Hawk. Can it FINALLY be his year?!?!

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